How to use historical market data to test your strategy

OK, this is getting ridiculous It's working for me: That's when a Time Machine would come handy - and this is exactly what a new tool for virtual betting on historical markets is called. Horse Racing

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We believe that Betfair Historical Data definition in email below has significant value and interest for Betfair customers. In return for a license to redistribute or provide access to Betfair Historical Data related services we are looking to earn 'Exchange Data Fees'. We believe that Betfair Historical Data definition in email below has significant value and inte. And I wish I could have another stab at doing that table It sounds like Betfair are charging for the right to republish the data?

The wording is confusing, did you get the impression they would also charge for the right just to access the data in the first place?

The wording is con. It does seem to be more along the lines of the licence to republish rather than merely access the data but this bit " In return for a license to redistribute or provide access to Betfair Historical Data " my emphasis that is throwing a spanner in the works.

I guess we all just have to wait and see what they end up doing. The whole thing is currently in the "planning" stage at the moment and is under review. Personally, I think they should leave it free for individuals to download for their own purposes but for anyone reproducing sizeable chunks especially of live data then they are well within their rights to ask for a fee.

I'd say again though that providing software developers and individuals with as much for free or very low cost as possible can surely only pay Betfair by increased usage of the Betfair platform? It does seem to be more along the lines of the licence to republish rather than merely access the data but this bit "In return for a license to redistribute or provide access to Betfair Historical Data" my emphasis that is throwing a spanner in the.

Good to see that the CSVs seem to be back up and running, btw. Thanks for the heads up on that one Mr Magoo. It's up again, yes, great - promising at least. But a dog's dinner. Unreadable format of the page itself and the UK race info is for part of December only Fingers crossed it will get a proper fix, but this must be a low prioriy for BF as it does not bring them any revenue.

Fingers crossed it will get a proper fix, but this must be a low prioriy for BF as. We had some problems in the last 48 hours with promo. The site is now live again, but there are still some more aspects that need fixing some data is missing, links broken etc and work is ongoing. However, these pages should not be confused with the Historical Data License, which has been in place since and is aimed at those who want to distribute Historical Betfair Data.

This is referred at the bottom of the following page: The site is now live again, but there are still some more aspects that need fixing some data is missing, links broken etc and work is ongoi.

Thanks for the update, BCM2. Mr Magoo - no problem, and yes can confirm that. Thanks for coming and giving us a official update BCM2, appreciated. You can have them if you want Thanks once more, BCM2. One of the good guys at Betfair HQ who actually communicates with their users! I didn't think going was listed there? Or is it on Timeform's data site? Sorry to probe, but obviously want to get a fix started in the right place.

All of betfair's data including the fracsoft stuff should be free and so what if someone reproduces it in their database? As long as they point out it's betfair data then betfair will be getting advertising and a plug for their better prices.

It reminds me of Savill wanting to charge the papers for printing the cards. You are right FNE - if betfair weren't so coy about their prices you might think we'd be seeing BSP alongside SP on the Sporting Life pages for instance which would make life a whole lot easier for me! But they are myopic in their thinking and only considering the quick buck.

And BCM2, if you are still around, would it be possible to explain what this page is, which is linked from the betfair sp page: Many thanks BCM2 My faith is completely restored. Very much appreciate your feedback and for looking into this.

Many thanks BCM2My faith is completely restored. Yes BCM2, we certainly appreciate all you put into this. Fraid I let it go a bit in an email to the info desk this morning. Folks - no problem, glad to help where possible. Reged - that page you point out is, I assume, one of those we are still fixing. BCM2, you can ignore that!

Reged - my first boss always said assume and it will make an ass of u and me. I assume he was right. It's now four days on and still the CSVs are unavailable, despite an email from your good selves telling me all was now sweetness and light. Do you have any further news on this please? I really have to ask again - why were these pages changed, there is absolutely no benefit to customers? Why have the changes been executed so poorly? BF is meant to be a technology company, why does it not possess the most basic IT skills?

BF is meant to be a technology company, why does it not posse. The SP History page this morning is a dogs dinner. Betfair - please sort this asap. I see that Betfair still haven't fixed the sites historical SP site. Could BCM2 or other Betfair employees let us know if this is going to be fixed or just abandoned?. It's working for me: I was previously downloading these files in my programme but it no longer works.

I've changed the code to point to the correct address but I suspect it's something to do with it having changed from http to https.

I don't suppose anyone's familiar with this sh1t? Also, before the changes, when you clicked on a csv file did it not download a csv file to your hard drive. Now it's showing the text of the file in the window?????????????? Not that I fancy doing that every file. Despite a lot of googling I've been unable to resolove this. Why is it now only available through hpps when it's free and requires no username or password. Is it maybe because the penny pinching b stards have every intention of making it subscription only in future?

For those downloading manually, it must be one pain in the rse trying to find the latest files you want given their ordering.

Is it maybe because the penny pinching b stards have every intention of making it subscription. Site is accessable again but isn't updated for a few days now. Files for the last days are still missing: I was previously get them from here http: That top link still isn't working though. I was previously get them from herehttp: Correct FNE, the other one was quickly concocted by BF to fob us off but it is not the proper page and it is a mess.

Feck, if your program isn't working with https: Thanks Mr Magoo, will take a look. Really disappointing that the CSV file page hasn't been updated for days now. I'd ask if anybody knows what's happening but I doubt even betfair know the answer. Feck - should be fixed any day, I am told. I'm playing safe with the 'should' However, a typical non-professional bettor has a day job, family and other social activities that make it impossible for them to be in front of their betting bots in time for the first race of the day.

That's when a Time Machine would come handy - and this is exactly what a new tool for virtual betting on historical markets is called. Suppose you want to test a betting system with your own settings.

Normally it would take you at least one full day of betting in one race after another, and you could still need more iterations. There are good and bad days, the latter including problems with your internet connection, the API service temporarily down, running out of bank too fast, or merely not enough appropriate markets that suit your criteria.

With the Time Machine, you simply choose the markets you want to work with and load them on your computer. You can get access to these markets from any place and at any time you like. Let's take a look at a very popular HiPro86 staking plan - this is one of those you can test with Time Machine. Watch the video below that demonstrates what I've told earlier. The video gives you the main idea of working with the Time Machine. The markets you choose are arranged in the order of their start time, and you can see their marks on the time line.

When a virtual clock starts ticking, the markets begin refreshing - just like they would in real mode. Only they can do it with up to 15 times faster. As they finish and get settled, your virtual profits and losses add up to form a virtual statement that you can review after you have done with the current round of testing.

The markets in Time Machine are recorded every day, so tens of thousands are available already and more are on their way. You will never feel short of statistical material for your systems.